James Liggins Jr.

Written By Tim Terrentine

Unstuck 006: The Limits of Law & the Power of Service

What happens when we challenge what we think we know about the law?

In this episode of UNSTUCK, Tim Terrentine sits down with James Liggins Jr.—attorney, civic leader, and community advocate—to unpack the difference between law and justice, and why that distinction matters more than ever.

From growing up in Kalamazoo to becoming a respected legal voice and community leader, James shares how his upbringing shaped his commitment to service—and how that commitment continues to guide his work today.

This conversation explores:

  • The real meaning of “beyond a reasonable doubt”

  • Why the legal system is inherently limited

  • How laws evolve—and who they impact most

  • The role of civic education in shaping society

  • The intersection of leadership, access, and responsibility

James offers a candid perspective: the law is not perfect—but it is a system we must understand if we want to navigate and improve it.

About the Guest

James Liggins Jr. is a Senior Counsel at Warner Norcross + Judd LLP, focusing on real estate litigation, business disputes, and community-centered legal advocacy. Beyond his legal practice, James is a deeply engaged civic leader—serving on multiple boards and advancing equity, access, and representation across Michigan. His work reflects a lifelong commitment to bridging profession and purpose.

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